Filming itself was out of my comfort zone...there were bugs everywhere...it was 120 degrees. At one point, I get thrown in a swamp in the middle of the movie, which was supposed to be this beautiful, beautiful lake. But because the temperature was so high, right before we started filming the scene, the algae in the water just sort of blossomed or whatever you call it and the entire lake turned green. I stepped onto the dock and there were tarantulas everywhere and everyone knows that I am totally freaking out. My co-star said to me, "Dude, don't do it. There are leeches in the lake." And I am like, "There are leeches in the lake??" He said, "If you can see what's at the bottom of the lake, don't do it."
He was joking around with me but he was scaring me so much because here's this city kid and I can't see the lake that they're throwing me in. So, I said, "Excuse me one second" and I go into my little wagon thing and I put on like three pairs of underwear. I rubberbanded my jeans together so that nothing can crawl up me. I get thrown in the lake and I just bolted out the second that I hit the water. Imagine being thrown in a lake that's actually a warm swamp and you feel all the marsh and stuff underneath. It was a crazy experience to film this movie but certainly very rewarding.
TJ: It brought you right out of the city in the country and welcome to real life!
SHULMAN: Yeah, yeah! This is real life. It makes you realize that the city is not always real life.
TJ: Now, let's also talk about White People, your most recent stage appearance in New York.
SHULMAN: It's been a wonderful experience for me. I hadn't been back on stage in a while. I don't know if you saw JT's last play, The Overwhelming at the Roundabout last year, but he is this incredible writer who writes about real important issues and important topics. I think dealing with race and racism in this post-Obama world is very topical.
The character of Alan just really spoke to me from the second that I read it. He's a young college professor who moves to New York with his newly married wife, who is pregnant, and his life is really starting. He has this one incredible student, this black girl, who he knows is a thousand times smarter than he is. Everything is going pretty well until he and his wife are attacked by this group of black kids in Stuyvesant Square, which shatters his entire world because now, he thinks these horrible thoughts when he see this girl, Felicia, his amazing student.
It's all about him wrestling with his own prejudices and his own guilt and his own inner demons. He's trying desperately to recapture his faith...his struggle is trying to find faith in life and in himself and God. It's this incredible role and I am so honored to play it. The difficulty is that it's a monologue play so I'm really talking to the audience and that is sometimes scary, as I'm sure you know. It's also incredibly invigorating because I really look at the audience and each night the audience changes so what they're giving me, as an actor, changes. It's amazing how some nights an audience will laugh at certain lines and some nights they won't. Because it's a small theatre, I can see everyone in the audience so it really does establish this personal connection with them. And that's been really fun.
TJ: Being someone who is in his late forties, I have seen many social changes over the years including people and their prejudices against certain sections of society. What is your personal view? Do you think that there is still a lot of prejudice out there?
SHULMAN: I really do. I think that it is something we'll be wrestling with over the next few years during Obama's administration. I do think it's certainly less than it was. We clearly by a large majority elected the first black President of the United States and that speaks volumes. But I think what's not being talked about, and what JT talks about, is what we're not speaking about and what we feel deep inside. To think that racism does not exist is somewhat naïve.
But for me, playing this role with a character who is an incredibly educated guy who all of a sudden realizes he has certain seeds of prejudice. I start realizing things like why are we afraid of certain people or walking down certain streets. Is that true or is that being smart or is that, in a way, being prejudicial? A line that I have is, "There is fear for a reason", and I think there is an interesting dynamic there. I mean, we live in New York and have watched it get so much safer, But are we in a way being a little bit naïve of we think things can't happen?
Thanks to Shulman for such great insight and a great interview. You should check out his new film Sherman's Way, directed by Craig Saavedra, which is opening in limited release on March 6, 2009, which also features Donna Murphy, Lacey Chabert, James LeGros and Enrico Colantoni. You can also check out the website at www.shermansway.com. For now, ciao and remember, theatre is my life!
